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'''Attendees'''
 
'''Attendees'''
- Jesse, Jeffrey, Nat, Yuliya
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- Jesse, Jeffrey, Nat, Yuliya, Andreas
  
 
'''Discussion'''
 
'''Discussion'''
  
Discussed how Cloud Foundry practices changed since VMware acquisition and pandemic
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This was a discussion about how Cloud Foundry practices changed since VMware acquisition and pandemic
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What happened?
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# Moved product managers and designers away (engineers could take over the backlog, but what about talking with customers?)
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# Changed what managers did (80% sw development -> full time manager)
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# Not using any co-location enabled practices (eg. breakfast, synchronization)
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# Emotional anguish of losing something special
  
1. Moved product managers and designers away (engineers could take over the backlog, but what about talking with customers?)
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And maybe pivotal wasn't perfectly solving some things in the first place. Eg. Pivotal PMs operating on tactical levels were operating more as business analysts, and couldn't focus on product vision and strategic work.
2. Changed what managers did (80% sw development -> full time manager)
 
3. Not using any co-location enabled practices (eg. breakfast, synchronization)
 
  
Alternative approach
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1. Empower engineers to groom and own the backlog
 
  
Different teams have different problems: sometimes when the question is "who's gonna groom the backlog" people answer "not me", and sometimes there's 2 engineers and 5 people who are trying to tell them what to do, and solutions will be different
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Post acquisition,  
 
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# the team was 16 people.  
Pivotal PMs operating on tactical levels were operating more as business analysts, and couldn't focus on product vision and strategic work.
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# Decision to stop looking at pivotal tracker, because pivotal tracker assumed pivotal process and we couldn't do that with the new team. The team switched to basecamp
 
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# The team decided to try "Shape up" methodology for 6 months. 6 week iterations with "bets" (shaped solutions for chunky problems) + 2 week off for adjusting, evaluating, planning. It was very successful for prioritizing and getting done work of the "Shapeup" size
Post acquisition, the team was 16 people. Decision to stop looking at pivotal tracker, because pivotal tracker assumed pivotal process and we couldn't do that with the new team. Plus there was a lot of emotional reasons why it was hard to continue trying to do pivotal process despite the acquisition.
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# It became much easier to advocate for your career advancement cause collective effort and accomplishment transitioned to personal accomplishment. Which freed up a lot of management time, however it also meant that a lot of "non-glamorous work" wasn't getting done
 
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# The team ended up going back to Pivotal Tracker sometime later in order to solve new problems, and after a break it was actually easier to use it again and for a new problem the team was trying to solve
Switched to basecamp, 6 week iterations with "bets" (shaped solutions for chunky problems) + 2 week off for adjusting, evaluating, planning. The methodology is called "Shape up". The team decided to try this methodology for 6 months.
 

Revision as of 11:47, 4 February 2023

"Post-XP something" (will be replaced by the real name)

Attendees - Jesse, Jeffrey, Nat, Yuliya, Andreas

Discussion

This was a discussion about how Cloud Foundry practices changed since VMware acquisition and pandemic What happened?

  1. Moved product managers and designers away (engineers could take over the backlog, but what about talking with customers?)
  2. Changed what managers did (80% sw development -> full time manager)
  3. Not using any co-location enabled practices (eg. breakfast, synchronization)
  4. Emotional anguish of losing something special

And maybe pivotal wasn't perfectly solving some things in the first place. Eg. Pivotal PMs operating on tactical levels were operating more as business analysts, and couldn't focus on product vision and strategic work.


Post acquisition,

  1. the team was 16 people.
  2. Decision to stop looking at pivotal tracker, because pivotal tracker assumed pivotal process and we couldn't do that with the new team. The team switched to basecamp
  3. The team decided to try "Shape up" methodology for 6 months. 6 week iterations with "bets" (shaped solutions for chunky problems) + 2 week off for adjusting, evaluating, planning. It was very successful for prioritizing and getting done work of the "Shapeup" size
  4. It became much easier to advocate for your career advancement cause collective effort and accomplishment transitioned to personal accomplishment. Which freed up a lot of management time, however it also meant that a lot of "non-glamorous work" wasn't getting done
  5. The team ended up going back to Pivotal Tracker sometime later in order to solve new problems, and after a break it was actually easier to use it again and for a new problem the team was trying to solve